i think im going to leave this club

We've had Twilight fans think this was a cover for a bashing club, the ones I saw changed their minds when they looked around. There are serious discussions where we talk about our dislike for certain plots, but that's expressing an opinion not bashing (which I would consider close minded hate, or refusal to hear an opposing viewpoint). There are also mocking images, but they are intended as a joke, not to offend fans. In fact some of them were even posted by Twilighters. We do not 'get joy' out of saying hateful things, we get it out of interesting debate/analysis. and jokes.
You say so many people here think you are an idiot or have no taste in books for liking Twilight. Please can you link me to any page where someone has said something like that to you? Because we have rules on this spot, and if anyone has insulted you just for liking the books they have broken the rules and do not represent the views of the spot as a whole.

Also, when people talk about the 'crazy' fans, they are not talking about just anyone who likes the books. When we say crazy fans we don't mean people who love the books, who talk about them, buy merchandise, even dress up as characters. By crazy we only mean the ones who have insulted or attacked us, or have done something that makes them seem crazy. It's not an insult to all fans.

This spot has an undeniable imbalance, but we are trying very hard to fix it. The problem is, many Twilighters see the debates (that are so far mainly showing an anti view) and think 'this spot is for antis'. We really want the spot to become fair to both sides, and we want our debates to have a pro opinion. Maybe better than leaving would be to invite some of your pro Twilight fanpop friends to join so you can all express your side in our debates? (*Important* by this I don't mean a call to arms, to come put antis in their place or something. I mean letting more pros know we really do want them to be heard, so they can come and help the spot have a balance of opinions)

If the only reason you were leaving is thinking we all hate Twilight and it's fans, and that your opinion wouldn't be welcomed I hope you reconsider. There are going to be rude people on every spot, but they don't represent the majority of us. If this spot simply isn't for you then I understand, and hope you know that it's not true we hate or look down on Twilighters. Our spot members certainly don't think you are stupid or lack taste for being a Twilighter :)

Goodbye, then.

Well, all right.
I'm a fan of Twilight, and I honestly have no clue what you're talking about.
The people on this spot-in my opinion-have been very nice, and the ONLY people that I have seen them bashing are the over-the-top Twilight fans-you know, the ones who have made the religion "Cullenism", and threaten to kill people if they don't like Edward Cullen? I have not seen them criticize anybody who says that they are fans.
Also, I don't think this is a bashing spot. I think that this really is crytical.

"well i think harry potter is overrated but you dont see any critical analysis of that."

Okay...where did that come from, Twilight_Dream. I believe that the reason HP doesn't have that is because unlike Twilight, it is generally liked by a lot of people, instead of a ton of people who hate it and a ton of people who love it.

If you want to leave this spot, fine. Do it. It's not my choice. But I find it really funny that there are a LOT of us Twilight fans who complain ALL THE TIME that this is a bashing spot, and yet they do nothing about it. They don't make and pro-Twilight picks, or answers, or forums, or anything-the ones who I've seen complain, at least. I don't remember you ever posting anything, so I guess good bye then, but you do realize that you could MAKE pro-Twilight stuff, right, instead of just sitting here and complaining about it?


Okay...switching to nice mode: I guess I could see why you want to leave. There is a lot of negativity around Twilight, and I'm sorry that you don't like going on this club anymore. So..good bye.

I'm sort of going to address something you wrote - a 'Critical Analysis of Harry Potter' spot. If you look around the Harry Potter spot, we do criticize HP sometimes so I don't think there's a need for a separate CAHP spot.

Sorry, but I can't say that I entirely agree with you about what's going in the club. And your statement about Harry Potter.

But if you think you should leave, then that's your opinion.

FYI: Harry Potter vs. Twilight is a Crytical Analysis of BOTH books/movies. Besides, this club is for people who want to get away from the Twilight hype along with CRYTICIZING IT!!!

Well, this is free speech about Twilight. You as a fan need to remember that us non-fans have like NO retreat. I see Twilight wherever I go. NO JOKE! Twilight here, Twilight there, OMG Twilight, Twilight Twilight. Rob is the best, Taylor is so cute blah blah blah! The only time we hear about Harry Potter is when a book is released or a movie comes out. Which is never again for the books,- though hope that changes. And every year or Two years for the movies. If you arent an obsessive Twilighter, than our cynical points of view for the series arent toward you, they are toward those who cant seem to get a grip on reality.

I agree but disagree at the same time. I started reading Twilight back when almost no one knew about it... and it was great, but as soon as it started to get more popular, things started to change...and eventually, i hated twilight... i hated all the advertisement and the whole drama pretty much, but then i decided to enjoy what i liked best about it(the book)and ignored the rest. Personally, i think the movie wasn't good compared to the book.

I'm very sorry that you felt so uncomfortable here. =( But some people have clubs that they fit right into, and then other clubs that they don't like as much. Maybe it was just the wrong club for you, like getting a shoe in the wrong size or something.

I hate to see you go, but it'll be better that way. =) Just don't think negatively of us, especially of Dearheart (who is just awesome). Maybe we'll see you around somewhere else. *Gives cookies*

If that's what you choose .

Everyone's pretty much said everything that needs to be said. I'll just add that I have the feeling that a lot of Twilighters think we bash when they make positive comments about Twilight and we question them when really we'd just like a good explanation. It's critical analysis so saying "i luurv Eddykins becuz hez hawt" doesn't really cut it here. We'd like to know why you think he's so fantastic because a lot of us have lot of reasons why he isn't. It's nothing personal. And it definitely isn't insulting you because of your opinion. We genuinely want to know why you love your book so much. Sometimes that goal does get lost though - I can't say that we're all perfect and we do the right thing all the time. But our goal is to keep you around because you like Twilight! Keeping you here is the only way bashing will decrease. But if you have to leave then you have to leave and I'm sorry for that.

We're the same....

I think HarryPotter as overratted!!!

I'm a Twilight Fanatic myself and I am really offended that some say negative and hateful things about Twilight.
I think it's really great and fantastic...
And I love Stephanie Meyer too...(though I love Carolyn Keene and Daniel Steel most)
And I like reading it again and again....
especially Breakin Dawn!


If you want to leave this club it's your decision... I'm not going to criticize you for leaving and...

can you be my friend?

My name is
Mraz Bell

♥ ya'

bye

im leavin this club

I think you are right(except about HP).

Sadly, this spot has turned into a bashing club in many ways. However, I think it is because of an inbalance, and the fact that there are problems with Twilight.

But thats no reason to behave like some people on this spot do.

So, I'd say you should stay, just to provide a bit more balance. Leaving won't solve anything. But, if you want to leave, then leave. It's you choice.

This club is just about expressing opinions about twilight. I don't think people should be rude about it, but if they are then there's no reason something so it really doesn't matter what people to get offended. Twilight is not a person or say about it as long as they're not making fun of you in particular. I must say that I agree with you on the fact that Harry Potter is overrated though.