Internet Opinions Where Are the Environmentalists Battling California Wildfires?

MajorDork74 posted on Oct 23, 2007 at 04:02AM
RUSH: How about these fires out in Southern California -- Malibu? This is just, well, it's amazing, but it's not uncommon. I actually think these fires are worse than hurricanes. I wonder where in the world are the environmentalist wackos here trying to put the fires out? This has been an amazing thing to watch and to read about. I imagine if you were sitting in Southern California on Sunday, the experience of watching these fires and the media reaction was fascinating. But one thing stood out to me, especially in Malibu, when you watch the wall-to-wall coverage, you see firemen, you see homeowners, you see landlords, you see business owners all struggling to save their homes and their businesses, and when the fire department wasn't able to help, they used garden hoses to fight the flames. They got 60 plus-mile-an-hour winds out there, the Santa Anas are driving all this. People are stamping out flames with their tennis shoes; their tennis shoes are catching fire.

Guys are trying to keep flames from coming underneath the door in their garages and so forth. And the people that were noticeably absent were the environmentalist wackos. Where were Greenpeace, Sierra Club and where were their bucket brigades, where do these people show up in time of disaster like this? They just love the wilderness, don't they? It's what they always say, "Save the species. Save the earth." Well, Mother Nature turned a whole bunch of Southern California via a torch, and I didn't see one Algore acolyte out there trying to help out. I'm sitting there watching this and I wonder how much CO2 and particulate matter got belched into the atmosphere from one fire, let alone five different fires out there. Talk about carbon footprint, try charcoal footprint. Well, it's natural, but here's the thing about Southern California. The left is going to claim, and a lot of people are going to claim, this is caused by a drought. Now, I lived up in California up in the northern part. I lived in Sacramento for a while before I moved to New York. I would go to LA for business reasons. There were always signs in the hotel, "Use as little water as necessary."

There's always a drought out there because it's a desert. It is not naturally green. I don't want to offend anybody out there, but the natural inclination would be when we're out there discovering the country, "Don't put a city here," but they funnel water in from the northern part of the state. There's always a big battle over that, too, and other western states where the water comes in. But it's basically a desert. It's basically a desert with a great view. It's not naturally green. You look at some of the vegetation, chaparral, for example, that's a real water-loving species. Pretty soon they're going to put cactus out there, just to have something to put fires out with. It's just an amazing thing to watch, you feel for everybody impacted by this. But fires happen. They happen regularly. These fires are an annual thing. This one is considered to be a little worse because of where it's hitting. It's hitting Malibu, which is an upper-crust, elitist enclave. So the class envy crowd ought to be somewhat happy with this. All the way up from San Diego, Santa Barbara is right between a couple of fires now.

As I say, we live in a hurricane-prone area here in south Florida. What did they predict, 15 hurricanes this year? We've had four. The end of the season is drawing near, as is the end of the turtle season. By the way, another turtle controversy up here. There aren't as many showing up. People are very upset, "Where are they going?" They're upset because they think the beaches are eroding and the authorities down here aren't replenishing the beaches well enough so the turtles aren't showing up, all these distractions. But here we've had four hurricanes this year; two of them nowhere near the United States; five last year. Who would have ever predicted after the Hurricane Katrina season we had all those hurricanes, 15 of them and then some tropical storms, we went through the whole alphabet of names, and had to go to alpha one and alpha two, and then they all predicted, "Oh, this is horrible, global warming, look out, folks, every hurricane is going to be a Katrina, we're doomed." We've had nine since that year. Who would have ever predicted that? Every prediction about the past two hurricane seasons has been wrong. I just had to throw that in.

The point is, these fires are worse than hurricanes. But, you know, Brentwood, where O.J. Simpson lived, that's not far from Malibu. It's not just a hop, skip, and trip, but it's not far from Malibu. It's close enough that people in Brentwood could have helped out if they wanted to. I'll tell you why I mention this, is that while fires were raging out there in Malibu, Hillary Clinton was celebrating in Brentwood at the home of Meathead, Rob Reiner, on Saturday night, who was singing songs to her. It was a preliminary birthday party. Her big birthday party is going to be some shuck and jive event here on the East Coast. So the Hollywood crowd wanted to give her a pre-birthday bash, which is really nothing more than a fundraiser for Mrs. Clinton. While millions of dollars worth of homes and businesses and family members were literally going up in flames, the Hollywood elite at Meathead's house, listening to him serenade Hillary Clinton. Actually, I made a mistake, folks. It wasn't for her, because we all know Mrs. Clinton doesn't care about money. The Clintons tell us this constantly. They don't care about money. This was for her campaign, and that means it was for the children.

So having Meathead serenade Mrs. Clinton on Saturday night in Brentwood, not a fundraiser, but for the children. (interruption) I don't think she did a flyover. I don't think there was one expression of -- well, I don't know what was said inside there, but I haven't seen Mrs. Clinton comment on the fires. Now, along with keeping this in context, with my theory that wildfires of this nature are far more damaging and dangerous than hurricanes, in a lot of cases you don't have the warning. These things with the Santa Anas propelling them, bam! In a tinderbox like that, and it is in the middle of a drought, but they're always in the middle of a drought, which is the point. You know when it rains in Southern California everybody goes nuts. It's weird, it doesn't happen that much, especially torrential downpours. After Katrina hit, all we heard about was, where's FEMA? Where's the federal government, and where's this or that? We have these homeowners, these business owners and the fire department out there and state authorities all on their own.

You know what causes the Santa Ana winds, ladies and gentlemen? It's a high-pressure -- a strong, very cold, high-pressure area -- air mass that extends unusually far south over the southern Rockies. As you know, in a high-pressure area the winds circulate clockwise and that's how they end up coming out of the east. You know, we have big, strong winds down there sometimes in October or November sometimes approaching 50 miles an hour with hardly anything in sight. It's usually because of a giant high over New England, coupled with low pressure down there that just creates winds and sucks it in. That's what happened. That's what causes the Santa Anas. I love it! In the midst of global warming, an unusually cold air mass of high pressure is fueling these 60-mile-an-hour winds.

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RUSH: Big Bear, California. Brian, you're up first. It's nice to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: Hey, Rush, how are you doing? Just thought I'd let you know the Butler Two Fire that was going on about a month ago just started raging again. And we have an old saying up here in Big Bear that having the Sierra Club manage our forests is like having Michael Jackson baby-sit your six-year-old child. Okay?

RUSH: (laughter) Well, that's the point. The Sierra Club creates tinderboxes out of forests.

CALLER: Absolutely. They won't even let us come in the forest and cut down the dead trees, and so what happens is you get too many trees sucking out the water, and it gives the bark beetles and those things the chance to kill off everything before anyone even knows about it. So now we've got a huge tinderbox ready to go up, which is exactly what's happening.

RUSH: Yeah. Sadly, though, it's all too common. These fires happen. They're annual, and this one just happens to be impacting a lot more homes than some of the others. I mean, all the way from San Diego to Santa Barbara with points in between. Thousands of people have to be prepared to evacuate their homes. That has got to be one of the most helpless feelings in the world to have. I have some friends that live in Sun Valley up in Idaho. This is my buddy that lives pretty close to John F. Kerry, and they had some fires up there in August, and they were this close to being told they had to evacuate -- and, of course, this is a built-in recipe for the wackos to blame global warming for all of this when these are common. Fires are common, and he's right. The Sierra Club will not let you get in there -- none of the environmentalists will -- and get rid of the dead junk that is at the bottom of these forests that is just like kindling wood. (New Castrati impression) "We must maintains the earth, Mr. Limbaugh, in its pristine and gorgeous state! This is nature, Mr. Limbaugh." And they just continue to miss the point. We are human beings. We have dominion. We manage our lives. In order to thrive, we have to alter our environment, and, if altering the environment means clearing out some dead brush to make fire less of a gigantic possibility than it already is, then we have a responsibility to do that.

But this is all rooted in the mistaken belief of the environmentalist wackos that human beings are only intruders here, and that we are predators, and that we're destroying the planet. Hell, I've got a story over here in the Global Warming Stack by Frazier Moore of the Associated Press, and it's about a television show. "It's a tough world, all right. Too bad it's not tougher. Right now Earth is looking pretty fragile as it suffers from increasing human punishment." We are punishing the earth! "This isn't really news, of course." Of course not! Why would the Drive-Bys question such a ridiculous proposition? It's "not really news that we are punishing the Earth"? We are punishing the Earth? You see, the only thing we can do, folks, is die, or leave. We have to stop "punishing" the Earth. "It's just so fragile. It is fragile, Mr. Limbaugh. It's very fragile." No, it's not! It's going to outlast us and whatever we do to it. God, the vanity that some of the people on this planet have. "But CNN has packed the two-night, four-hour Planet in Peril with information and images that give a familiar story new urgency. Here is an eye-opening, often heart-wrenching exploration."

It's just more of the same. Talk about propaganda. That is precisely what this is all about, designed to frighten and create fear in as many people's minds as possible. This is all part of the hoax to make you feel as guilty as possible because you're responsible. You are now punishing the planet, folks. You! You are punishing it. Those of you who are about to lose your homes or have lost your homes in fires in Southern California, and Idaho, you are punishing the planet. Mother Earth is just getting even with you because Mother Earth doesn't want homes where you put them, and when a hurricane comes along and destroys your home on the beach, it's Mother Earth getting even with you because Mother Earth doesn't want homes on her beaches. Yes, so Mother Earth coming. If anybody is punishing anybody, it's Mother Earth punishing us. But, no, we're punishing Mother Earth. It's designed to make you feel guilty because you're causing this, and when some dingleberry comes along with the idea that you need to roll back your lifestyle and have your taxes raised, you're supposed to -- in order to absolve yourself of this guilt and sin -- go right along with it. It's about bigger government controlling your life and that's what global warming actually is all about.

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over a year ago katiemariie said…
Actually, from an environmental standpoint fires caused by lightning are good. They allow for secondary secession to occur thus creating more species richness. That's not to say that environmentalists are having a big party right now celebrating the evacuation of over a million people.

The reason dead trees are allowed to remain in forests is that they are home to thousands of organisms who break down the trees. Many environmentalist and especially more extreme environmentalists believe in Deep Ecology, or all living things have the same right to life. The Sierra Club doesn't want people to remove those dead trees because they support so much life--life that they believe is equal to that of a human.

I want to add that the main goal of environmental science is the preservation of the species. Sustainability and all that about the future generation inheriting a spent earth is about keeping our species alive. Keeping the earth pretty, keeping Lake Tahoe blue, and keeping the Galapagos Islands full of so many species of finches is secondary.